Below transcript is from Episode 2. In this episode, we watch Shawn's favorite, the 1994 Romance/Crime-Drama, Jason's Lyric starring Allen Payne, Jada Pinkett Smith, and Bokeem Woodbine.
Shawn 00:17
Hello, everyone. Welcome back to unscene culture classics. This is episode two. We hope you've enjoyed the first episode. Today's episode we're reviewing Jason's lyric you want to?
Brad 00:34
I thought we were doing was it Jacob's Ladder?
Shawn 00:37
Yeah, he thought the movie was called Jacob's Ladder.
Brad 00:40
Very different movie.
Shawn 00:41
Yeah. Jason's lyric is one of my favorite movies. So obviously I've seen it before. A bunch of times. This was Brad's first time watching it
Brad 00:52
without spoilers. And without going into the plot. Why do you like it so much? Because it's
Shawn 00:57
a beautiful tragic love story. Okay, we I think we both know that I like movies that are like, actual stories. Um, yes, sometimes they're sad, but they're good.
Brad 01:09
All right. So I guess you'll read a synopsis and I guess before we watch it, I'll try to guess what will happen?
Shawn 01:17
Yes. All right. Okay. From IMDB. Two brothers, survivors of family tragedy. Take different life paths. One falls for high spirited waitress and dreams of success. The other follows a life of petty crime, their lives reconnect in shattering fashion. This is from 1994. Okay, so let's go. What do you what do you think?
Brad 01:42
So here's my thinking. They're put in a lot of information, a lot of emphasis on tragic illness happening. And the one brother meeting a waitress for like, something has to happen to the waitress. Like, what? Alright, so here's my, my theory or whatever. Okay, one brother. So I'm assuming the brother doesn't petty crime is not paying, because he seemed like a clean cut type of guy from the cover. I remember that's, and so I'll say that the other brother, whoever that is, is gonna kill pains woman, whoever that is.
Shawn 02:22
Okay. So for anybody who hasn't seen this pain is Alan Payne who pleased character, Jason. All right. Well, obviously, I didn't have an initial thought, because I've seen this before. But I don't think you're too far. We'll see when we watch. You know how true that is?
Brad 02:43
Yeah. So if I'm right, I won't be super happy, obviously, because I love being right. Or wrong or whatever. Okay, what does that like? I wasn't wrong.
Shawn 02:56
Yeah. What are your thoughts about Elon pain in general?
Brad 03:00
He's cool. I like them in CB four.
Shawn 03:03
I don't know what CB four. Oh, I'm black. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Brad 03:07
Gotcha. As a warm up Chris Rock. Yeah. Yeah. And he, they were like, making fun of how, like a lot of rappers. At that time. They got real in touch with like, the Nubian side and right leg side. So Yeah.
Shawn 03:19
Kinda like when I'm black. You're black. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know that? I also hadn't seen that before. You made me watch him. Yeah. So that's No, no. No. So, okay.
Brad 03:34
So you know, well, sorry. Yeah. How's the pain?
Shawn 03:38
Yeah, how's the pain started off good. But, you know, yeah, like, you
Brad 03:42
can only talk about the minecraft game for so long. Right after I got all about her, and then the kids get old and then that's, that's kind of where it goes downhill because I think they didn't even like adopt a new kid because all other kids are too old. At some point. Okay,
Shawn 03:59
all right. So, after watching the movie, were you correct in your initial that
Brad 04:06
I was very close. Okay, so describe my rollercoaster of emotions watching the pivotal scene at the end. But maybe we should go into our thoughts about the whole movie sadness towards the end. Okay. Talk about
Shawn 04:24
so you went right or wrong. You want to talk about overall or like your least part your least favorite, your most favorite? Because I have some thoughts overall something?
Brad 04:33
Let's go overall. Okay. We can begin picking some scenes that we want to talk about, that we really liked or really didn't like. And then when it drives and we get to the end, we could talk about how, how right or wrong I was.
Shawn 04:48
Okay, that's fair. So I'll start. My first thought the opening. I didn't realize it started with love and happiness, our green song with is also the same song that starts loving basketball, which is a another of my favorite Black movies. So I kind of like that.
Brad 05:08
Super indifferent. Yeah, I'm sure.
Shawn 05:11
The mental health services for vets. Okay. So I wrote that as a thought, right? Because I felt like the way Mad Dog the father is portrayed, they made it seem like of course he had PTSD after the war, but like he never received any services. He didn't know how to cope. So he was like drinking, he was a menace to his family. And basically ended up being killed because he was having this like, mental breakdown. And they like, you know, didn't know how to deal with it. Alright. So I think that's a, you know, a little political but we need some services for vets.
Brad 05:51
Was my man named Mad Dog? That was before he came back from the war.
Shawn 05:58
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe.
Brad 06:00
He's always been mad. Yeah, he's got a little bit matter.
Shawn 06:03
It's one of those nicknames he had probably when he was younger stuff. Or he only drinks Mad Dog.
Brad 06:09
Oh, the mad dog and got them sitting right?
Shawn 06:14
I guess not.
Brad 06:16
Yeah, so that kicked out the movie a little patricide?
Shawn 06:20
Yeah. Um, and then I thought about so we see this scene happen when they're younger, like the brother, Joshua shooting the Father. Right? Or it's implied that he shot the father in Florida. Yeah. Yeah, a little twist. And then they show the adults, the kids as adults. And Jason keeps having these nightmares about the shooting. So obviously, we don't see the transition from the night of the shooting until now that he's an adult. But I wonder. After the second night they showed us he had these nightmares. Has he had a nightmare every day of his life since that that happened?
Brad 07:02
The shooting may make it seem like a Yeah, it makes him like a super recurring.
Shawn 07:06
Yeah, so that's probably what like, what, at least 15 years, as long as the same nightmare. Yeah. So I think he needed help, too. And then I just think it's interesting. I don't know traumatized from that thing. Yeah. The sibling dynamic. Yeah. Speak it. Well, I feel like you know, Jason, being the oldest sibling trying to, you know, watch out for his brother and make sure he's doing the right thing. But then you have the brother who's like, Nope, I'm gonna do what I want. Captain saver, bro.
Brad 07:39
Yeah. Big mistake. You can't say well, bro.
Shawn 07:43
I mean, I feel like we see that a lot in movies. Yeah. But yeah, I think part of the black family though, in particular, you know, like, your and your siblings are supposed to look out for each other. And so like he's trying but his brother's making it very hard. Yeah. The whole movie.
Brad 08:01
All right. I'm gonna rewind a little bit slightly. Only because before we get to the death of Mad Dog, my favorite scene? I think movie happens. Mad. I guess he he caught a cab when he got back. And
Shawn 08:22
yeah, he was driving a cab driver. He's something.
Brad 08:25
All right. He has a cab. Somehow he procured a cab. Yes. Not sure if he's able to actually drop people around by boat to his kids. Gets out what again? But he shoots his oldest son with a water gun. And well, it goes like Mad Dog. You're so crazy. And then as a little brother's name, Josh. Josh is like, Oh, I heard you drunk and he gets all grumpy and storms off. But then all of a sudden, this other little boy runs?
Shawn 09:01
No, lo. You got to rewind it though. Because Mad Dog told Jason. You never leave home without money in your pocket. Right.
Brad 09:10
And he's about to give him some coop right. And then the lowboy? It was like, Ooh, glop, and the RAM pads to try to steal it. And my boy Mad Dog hit him with the Sandman and just eat it him with the cane with the hook. made him fall and just started going to town all over the game. I don't know why that was so great. But that was like the most perfect scene I've ever watched. Yeah, yeah. That's good.
Shawn 09:36
Yeah, that's interesting. I think he definitely let you laugh on that part anymore.
Brad 09:41
Yeah, I think it's probably funny either. But it was hilarious. Yeah, maybe
Shawn 09:45
a little bit of comedic relief. I feel like the scene was so serious. So the
Brad 09:51
breaks out there boy. Yeah,
Shawn 09:53
I bet you he didn't steal from anybody else again.
Brad 09:56
Yeah, maybe not. I think got CT now. Yeah. Hearing a little boy up,
Shawn 10:02
huh? Okay, what are the thoughts? General?
Brad 10:05
We could probably just go through the whole movie. Okay, what happened? Because so he just having a dream for our nightmare for 15 years?
Shawn 10:13
Yeah, we assume. Because when he meets lyric and they actually like start dating, he says, you know, he's tired of having these nightmares. And I guess she liked the way he felt with her made him not have those nightmares like he was able to sleep peacefully and have dreams of a better life and all of that.
Brad 10:34
That's that's a lot of pressure on lyric.
Shawn 10:37
It is a lot of pressure.
Brad 10:39
Like I just met you, well not just met you. I guess they were kind of catch your feelings already at that point.
Shawn 10:44
Well, so I guess that kind of gets me into one of my favorite parts. So Jason initially meets lyric, like when she walks into the the TV store, and she needs to buy a TV.
Brad 10:57
This poor girl just wanted a TV and she come in some do.
Shawn 11:01
Now she she was flirting with him a little bit. All right, but he's like, wants to take her out. And she says, basically, if it's meant to be we'll see each other again. That's your favorite part. No. Does that mean? Housing find her? Right? So I'm getting there. So then I don't know the time period, but a couple of days at least probably pass, right? And he goes to this restaurant. And he sees that she works there. Yes. So then he's trying to holla at her again. And he said, Well, you told me if it's meant to be like, we will find each other. I found you. And then she still wanted nothing to
Brad 11:35
do with him. He said, I found you miss New booty. What's up? Right?
Shawn 11:38
So then she gets on the bus to go home. And he like, takes his friend's car and follows the bus and finally finds out where she lives. So energy. Well, I always thought that was you know, kind of sweet and cute. Like it was kind of romantic. He was trying to get her. But now as a 31 year old woman that is very creepy. And a lot stalkerish
Brad 12:01
if somebody did that in real life. Yeah, I would be very upset.
Shawn 12:04
Yes. And calling the police or somebody
Brad 12:07
who, who wrote this movie. It was it a man? I'll find out, but it's given my vibes.
Shawn 12:14
You think Man, Bob's? Why do you think that
Brad 12:17
that is written by man? Yeah, I don't know if a woman a woman would have wrote that part. I don't know. I could be wrong.
Shawn 12:23
Well, let's see for a second. Jason's lyric writer Bobby Smith Jr. It is.
Brad 12:30
Given a lot of man energy. I think men especially back then had the vibe that like being romantic. It's just like, going after them until they say yes. Which is kind of stalkery
Shawn 12:43
Yeah. So I don't know how old I was the first time I saw this movie, obviously. I was four or three when it came out. So I didn't watch it when I was three. But I thought it was kind of cute. And then like I said, now at my age now. No. Very stalkerish lot of red flags. And now we would have been done writing in there.
Brad 13:02
Everything about it. He put it there a lot. The red flag was blaring there was there was waving. Yeah, for good reason. And she still went with it a weirdo. Captain saver, bro. You're right. You can't save these bros. So like literally, you can't save them in this movie.
Shawn 13:19
Yeah, so for those listening, men. Don't follow your girl or a girl that you like anywhere. Ladies, if he's following you, don't give him your number. Don't date him. It's very stalkerish call somebody report them. All right. My second favorite part.
Brad 13:36
Sorry. They go to the restaurant. Like they've been there before. Like they'd like it. He's never seen it there ever. This just start. That's a good point.
Shawn 13:46
She might have been I'm Eddie roll didn't they're like they got the best. Eddie, you might have been there. But that doesn't mean about adding friends. I don't know because it seems like they weren't really friends. Like they're acquaintances. He's really, it seems like Eddie is really the brother's friend. And like Jason just deals with him.
Brad 14:06
They were they were hanging out a few times by themselves. And like he would just come find his brother and neighbor chop it up. What um, yeah. Oh, no.
Shawn 14:15
I mean, I've seen my brother's friends before. I'll say hi, whatever. I'm not going anywhere with him. But they were just him and Eddie. Yeah, that's it. I'm Sam. Fried chicken and Black Eyed Peas. Well, Eddie, but you notice Eddie order he Jason never ordered because he then he was looking around and he saw lyric. So he never ordered anything. And he walked in and was like, I want this this and this. And the pickle.
Brad 14:37
Alright.
Shawn 14:41
So my second favorite part was the Juneteenth Celebration. I feel like I don't know
Brad 14:49
what you know about that?
Shawn 14:50
Well, this one but to say so I feel like I don't remember that part. Or and I don't remember necessarily the banners saying that it was a June team Celebrate. Sure, but you know, in recent years, it's like a thing. And now it's a national holiday and people are celebrating. But I thought it was cool to see that in the movie from 1994. But it didn't make sense because the movie is set in Texas, and we all know Juneteenth Texas. So,
Brad 15:16
yeah. And how would you? How old were you when you first saw the movie you think?
Shawn 15:24
I don't know. Probably like 12.
Brad 15:26
So you didn't probably even know what Juneteenth was. Yeah. So you probably didn't even register your little baby brain.
Shawn 15:35
Yeah, definitely didn't. So Washington's back. I was like, Oh, they have like a whole carnival going on a choir singing
Brad 15:42
choir was was saying, yeah. America, it's gonna work on them.
Shawn 15:51
Oh, yeah. Very 90s Everything.
Brad 15:54
The hair was originally a tire.
Shawn 15:57
Very nice. Scrape in the clouds. Yes. Yes. Very tall. And then my last favorite part was the end of the movie when Jason can live. Oh,
Brad 16:10
you can't just get to the end. You missed so many parts.
Shawn 16:16
But my favorite. Okay, so film.
Brad 16:21
All right. So we got to talk about there's one scene where it's pure waste.
Shawn 16:27
Okay, we're saying is that waste? Okay, was they knew that
Brad 16:33
there was a scene with Joshua and his crew. There is sitting. Chillin, smoking a little bit of questionable. Cigarettes. Okay. Drink in a little bit of 40s. Let's say Jason comes up. Oh, what's up everybody? Give me a 40 y'all. Open still. 40 takes one sip. Puts it back.
Shawn 17:03
But why did he put it last my mouth because his brother was being dumb. And he was trying to save his brother. Cabanon saver, bro.
Brad 17:10
That is the biggest party file I've ever seen. Who's what can you do with that?
Shawn 17:17
Would it open for you? Somebody else can drink it?
Brad 17:19
No, he sipped from it. It's over.
Shawn 17:24
What? What does that
Brad 17:25
mean? If somebody came and drink your Fanta took one sip of your Fanta. No, I'm
Shawn 17:30
not drinking it. All right.
Brad 17:32
This is a 40 wasted. You can't wait to 40
Shawn 17:35
Okay, you sound like you know, me. Okay,
Brad 17:38
so it just made me very angry. And I was like, Oh, I don't like you, Joshua. I mean, Jason.
Shawn 17:44
See? So it's so interesting to write because he was grown enough to like, be smoking, whatever. He's smoking and drinking and doing all this. But then his brother walks up and he's like, passing it to somebody else to act like he's not you know, doing anything. So are you going to be grown? Or are you gonna be a little baby and be scared of your brother?
Brad 18:03
I mean, I think he was a little baby like the whole movie. But I think there was a point who emotionally stunted. Oh, for sure. Yeah, a little crazy. Like when he had the bank when he like, beat the dude's face in with the gun. Oh, he didn't say one of the watch. Yeah, but for no reason. He just wanted like the power. I think he just want it. Oh, he did the robbery basically, for no reason. At that point, because they didn't have a reward. Like they didn't get the money. Yes. Like no, we got to leave. He was like, What about the money? So I think he just wanted like to watch so you can sell it for money.
Shawn 18:38
But he screwed it up anyway, right? He's the reason the
Brad 18:41
Josh booted up my you mess up his workout. So you gonna blame it on Jason? I mean, yeah, Jason, not Josh. Man. Why they both of Jays. I'm gonna mess it up the whole time. But basically, Jason, I messed up his workout. When I'm late.
Shawn 18:58
Well, he could have just not finished working out and got up and went to the bank at 230 or whatever the time was, or you
Brad 19:04
go rob a bank without a pump.
Shawn 19:07
He didn't do anything. Anyway. He
Brad 19:09
was bench pressing getting this chest
Shawn 19:10
ready, but he didn't need that. Need to do that to rob the bank?
Brad 19:14
Yes, you do. You gotta look imposing. How you gonna walk in the bank with a birchas talk about
Shawn 19:20
Brian is not open. They don't see him.
Brad 19:24
Girl you can see a dude just through his shirt he had
Shawn 19:27
on a flannel and some something else. Like nobody cares about his chest when they're getting robbed.
Brad 19:33
Yeah. If I'm getting robbed, the first thing I'm looking at is their chest. No, you're not my guy. I gotta size him up. See if I can take him. Yeah, you
Shawn 19:43
might size him up, but you're not gonna be like, Oh, he was just lifting the weights five minutes before he walked in his door.
Brad 19:48
I'm looking at his hands, his shoulders and his chest. Maybe his knees Anastos, his knees or his toes, knees and toes, knees and toes.
Shawn 19:58
Please stop Have
Brad 20:00
you worked in and out one?
Shawn 20:02
No. All right. Um, so you guys something else in between before I get to my favorite part?
Brad 20:08
Yeah, it could you wireless. So, no, I
Shawn 20:11
have some other things that are like my least favorite. But I'm talking about my favorites first.
Brad 20:18
Go ahead is your favorite, there's gonna be like that as a happy ending.
Shawn 20:22
Yes. That they sell in the movie. They make a plan to leave this small town in Texas. And they're gonna go somewhere together. This is Jason and lyric we're talking about. They're gonna go somewhere together and you know, have this amazing life. But Josh being the little brother, who does not know how to be an adult, and control his feelings, and his drinking, shoots lyric. And basically, Brando explain that whole thing and a little bit, but shoots lyric, and all we see is Jason like walking her out of the house to the ambulance. And that's pretty much it. So you kind of assume that maybe she's not alive because she's not really breathing. She's, she's kind of passed out or whatever you want. She
Brad 21:15
looked really lifeless. Yes, very lifeless. But I'll explain. But reason.
Shawn 21:20
At the end of the movie, they're on the bus together, and they look happy and peaceful. And they're traveling to their new life.
Brad 21:28
And she got a little bandage shot.
Shawn 21:31
It's a wonderful love story.
Brad 21:33
Alright, so since you went there, we can talk about that dump scene. All right. So is it in a movie? Joshua was like, he's like, I'm gonna just shoot everybody. Because after he messed up the bank robbery trench and his group basically kidnapped home. Stretch. Other tape. And other guy. Yeah, brother. Yeah. Oh, the tape. That's ex husband.
Shawn 22:02
Don't like that. Everybody know who charges
Brad 22:05
anyway? Josh was like, oh, yeah, kidnapped me. Y'all beat me up. I gotta get my get back. So he goes back to get it in blood. And he shoots other Tate. He shoots other guy first. That guy's dead. He shoots other T other Tate's able to run up the steps into the house. Lyrics already there. He kills all the tape. He runs up and he's yelling at lyrics
Shawn 22:36
that he saw lyric before he even started shooting. So he knew she was in the house. Right?
Brad 22:41
He was like, Jason from me. Crying and stuff. Being a little big baby. And she's like me insurance without even a thing anymore. Lying through her little teeth. I guess I didn't clean they weren't a thing. That point. Yeah,
Shawn 22:58
because Jason's like, I can't do my brother needs me.
Brad 23:04
But Jason's on the way because he was alerted by Joshua's crew. Eddie came and told them, yo, Josh was gonna do something stupid. So they they get in the whip, and they race over there. Jason goes on foot because they get stopped at a train and he like dodges a train narrowly.
Shawn 23:27
Yes, I hadn't thought about that, too, because I felt like he had plenty of time to run and he waited to the train was like right there. It was like, Oh, let me let me try to hurry up and run.
Brad 23:36
It was a very weird scene. But yeah, basically, that happened.
Shawn 23:41
You went to the house? Yes.
Brad 23:44
Joshua was yelling at yelling and Larry. Which at this point looks like a discount. Halle Berry. Lyric. I think that was a Robin a movie. Yeah. Okay.
Shawn 23:57
I think you just don't my data.
Brad 23:58
No, I don't. Yeah, more discount was my girl from or discount me along? I feel like that's the vibe. Pinot. Leah near Long was like the thing. Yeah, she was yeah, she still is right. But in that time, period, she was like, especially ally. No. All right. Anyway, Josh was like, I'm gonna kill you. Basically. This is what the vibes is given. Before Jason gets there. Jason Rosa, Jason has a gun. His vibe is I'm a girl, my brother if you don't stop tripping, they argue like Don't make me do this again. Implying that like he's gonna kill more of his blood.
Shawn 24:40
Oh, yeah. Cuz by the way, Jason reveals to lyric that he's the one who actually shot the Father. Josh didn't shoot him. Yeah, he
Brad 24:48
did it by mistake. He
Shawn 24:49
says yeah, he was trying to get the gun from Josh and Mad Dog was like approaching them and he kinda like didn't know what to do and pulled the trigger accidentally.
Brad 24:59
So technically, it's still Joshua's fault because he got the gun for no reason. Yes. So it's the whole thing with a movie, Jason trying to fix Josh's mistakes and making things worse. That's kinda like the main situation. Jason Shawn have stopped Joshua from robbing a bank, and he makes the situation worse. It makes Joshua late. And then Josh watches the bank thing, then gets beat up by the gang members. And then Jason goes and visa, perhaps ex husband. And then that makes the situation even worse. Yeah. Anyway. He's like, I'm gonna kill you. If you pick her over me. So and then they'll judge who was gonna like, Man, I would do and I think he does he have a revolver? I don't know. Why me, I think there's a hammer. They have to pull back anyway. He talks it pulls the hammer back, whatever guns do. And he shoots her in the shoulder area. And he's right.
Shawn 26:04
I'm sorry. That was I mean.
Brad 26:09
I don't know if he's supposed to be. It's supposed to be drunk in high because I feel like you're the whole movie. He's all drunk and high. Yes. Okay. So we'll just we'll just say he's, he's very drunk. Because he also has nightmares. But he says that he drinks they forget them basically, or div. So they never happen. So the both the brothers have nightmares to get under pretty much. I guess it does a book you can say later kind of like foils of each other. Parallels, whatever else. Yeah. So I was like, Ooh, Jason, but to get him here, but, but but, but then Jason just like cries and he was like, Oh, be okay. Whatever he says. Alright,
Shawn 26:50
so you went to other people how you felt when he lifted Jade off?
Brad 26:54
So, so no lot. So it starts when? So when you told her at gunpoint, or when Josh was holding a gunpoint I'm like, Oh, here's my moment. I'm ready. And by the turn of this girl, the girl being shot, I'm about to turn to her and be like, hey, what I say. But then he shoots her. I'm like, I look at where your shooter. Look and very lifeless. It's like the right shoulder. Upper. I like that ain't no nothing.
Shawn 27:25
Yeah, when Jason lifted lyric off the floor, we both were like, she didn't even have an exit wound.
Brad 27:32
And it was so close range. I don't. I don't. I said this when we were watching a movie. I don't know what caliber gun that was. I don't know how guns work. I'm not an expert. But I feel like a revolver in close range will just go through. I don't know.
Shawn 27:46
And she she had blood in the spot. But there was nothing. Yeah, just
Brad 27:51
in anyway. So she's sitting there, or laying there looking really lifeless. And I'm very confused. Cuz I'm like, Oh, I'm right. But how am i right? Because he shot her in the shoulder. And she should not be dead. So there's like a lot of what
Shawn 28:08
he didn't even check a pulse. No pulse check.
Brad 28:11
He just cried. Yeah. So he assures that are out with no urgency, by the way. He just walks very slowly to the ambulance.
Shawn 28:20
I mean, but I guess if he thinks she's did, what's the urgency? I guess
Brad 28:24
then why take her to the aimless. If you think she's dead. I guess what does the ambulance do?
Shawn 28:32
You know, I can't. I don't want to give you know, my, my medical opinion here. But he should have checked for a pulse. Right? And some CPR or something.
Brad 28:42
Yeah. But you know, he can say he's in shock.
Shawn 28:46
Yeah, we could. But he should always check for a pulse.
Brad 28:49
But basically, it looked like she was very dead. And I thought it was gonna be right. So I was little bit happy, but a little bit of noise, because I didn't understand how she was dead. Because it wasn't even the left side. Yeah, wasn't anywhere near the heart. Yeah. And I don't think it was anywhere near any important arteries or anything like that. I'm not a biologist. I don't know about anatomy.
Shawn 29:09
She definitely would have survived. All right.
Brad 29:14
Okay, cool. So then lessons on devices, Joshua was crying and he kills himself. Which cool.
Shawn 29:20
So I'm gonna stop you right there right or so I feel like Josh was like, so distraught because he thought he killed lyric. And now his brother basically was really done with him. Right? So he's like, I don't have my brother. Why am I here? But I feel like, if he knew that lyric wasn't really did, he wouldn't have shot himself. I feel like because he said before, you know, he rather just have life in jail than whatever. So I think he would have just took a jail sentence. I don't think he would have killed himself.
Brad 29:51
Very possible. But then, you know, probably wouldn't be Jason on the bus at then.
Shawn 29:57
Yeah, I mean, but even that, so Jason In right, so he wanted to Li and he said he couldn't because of his mother, right? She needs me. Right? And then it was like, well, it's not really my mother who needs me. I can't leave her with my brother. Right? So my brother needs me. So now the brother killed himself. You just left your mother like, alright, she can she can figure it out. I'm going
Brad 30:19
to try and get this. Try and get whatever Will Smith haven't.
Shawn 30:24
You answer me at least favorite part? Yeah.
Brad 30:26
Every scene with peppers ex husband. Because his activities
Shawn 30:31
are we not gonna call him. We're not gonna call him his name.
Brad 30:35
Where you want to call his name? Naughty by nature.
Shawn 30:38
That's the group. What's the name? church? Church? Yes. I think the main deserves to be called church and now perhaps ex husband.
Brad 30:47
All right. Church axing or treacherous. Yeah, yes. It was pretty bad. It was his namesake. It was bad. Yes. Alonzo garba. J. Good actor.
Shawn 31:00
Who is the character? Right. I agree.
Brad 31:04
There are some scenes where I was like, why is this going on so long? I think the first thing he had was really bad when he's going back and forth for Jada.
Shawn 31:11
Yeah. Because it but you couldn't even really saw that. That was her brother. Like he was talking to her like he just didn't do
Brad 31:17
you didn't know her. Yeah, it was weird. Talking about like, how, how shorter shorts were or pants or how tight tight they were? Yeah, I was like, why is this happening? So bad? Was that his first movie? Good question. Because he played um, did you play blade at some point? On the TV show?
Shawn 31:34
I have no idea. I
Brad 31:35
think he did. His I think got a little better. Like as time went on, but in the movie, it was really bad.
Shawn 31:43
So I'm gonna look at it real quick. You any ads, at least
Brad 31:47
it reminded me of not because his acting was very bad, though, because it was a rapper. It reminded me of Snoop Dogg and baby boy, like gave me those vibes. Oh, we're
Shawn 31:57
not gonna do that.
Brad 31:58
I can say no. Snoop Dogg's acting was fine. And I'm saying, Say brah. So you're not listening to him. I said, I'm not saying because the acting was bad, but because it was a rapper in this type of movie in this type of role. Like being a gangster. He gave me the Snoop Dogg vibes. Okay, gotcha. I feel like that's what his character was like.
Shawn 32:22
Yeah, no hitter. So he actually was in a few TV shows. Like he had some. I don't even know if these are TV shows. There's some Oh, no, nevermind. He was the first film he was an was juice. And I need to watch it on the list. Yeah. 93 He was a media man. Right?
Brad 32:42
Of course. I told you. If you listened to the intro, intro, I talked about my lover Meteor, man and how at the end, every rapper from the 90s basically just pops up.
Shawn 32:55
So in juice, he was somebody's homie. So Jason. Okay. Probably his first like, real. Yeah. Right. So yeah, I think we meet
Brad 33:04
your managers a cameo, then. Right?
Shawn 33:07
So I think that kind of goes with what you say about him not really know how to act. But
Brad 33:12
yeah, it makes sense. You got to know you learn. You can't just start acting one day and be good. And go to school for it. So that was it. Jason? Not finishing his 40 and Troche Lee's favorite things about the movie. Okay, I had Oh, wow. And the whole light. The whole movie in general. Like, now, that's not my style girl. You'd like to watch if you were you'd like to watch a movie when people are miserable and stuff. Like that stuff. We're
Shawn 33:45
gonna talk about your rating. But I have three things that I hate it
Brad 33:49
about. Alright, then I'll, when you tell me what you hate. I'll probably jump on the back of it because I probably hated it too much, but I can't think of it because I just don't like the whole thing.
Shawn 33:59
All right. All right. So the first thing when they showed Mad Dog having his little episode, and he was cutting Gloria into his arm. Yeah. Forgot about that. Yeah, I nope. Then like it. Because that's mutilation.
Brad 34:15
You didn't like the feeling gave you? Yeah, like, Oh, no. Well, I think it's supposed to make you feel that way. Yeah, I
Shawn 34:23
didn't like it. All right. And again, he needed some mental health. Right. Um,
34:30
Jay does accent row bed. Yeah.
Shawn 34:33
I don't know. Who she listened to or what kind of, you know, idea she had about a southern accent, but it was not good.
Brad 34:44
You know what it was given? It was given Kanye his workout plan at the end. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Older play role playing. Yeah, it was given that.
Shawn 34:53
Yeah, it was it wasn't good data. And my last thing I hate it Every scene, every scene that Jason was shirtless, and they showed his nasty chest hair. Oh, yeah. It made me throw up everything. Disgusting. That's it.
Brad 35:13
So I don't really have anything to say about his chest there. So,
Shawn 35:17
yeah, very well, they could have kept him in the shirt, the whole movie.
Brad 35:20
So you hated that really long scene ahead when you're rolling around no flowers, right?
Shawn 35:24
Yes. I hated basketball scene. I hated whatever that other thing was. He should have kept the shirt on, or they should have waxed his chest or something is gross. Yeah.
Brad 35:36
I didn't try to I just feel like your body shame and my man, Alan. I mean, does that okay?
Shawn 35:44
If you won't call the body shaming, I'll take it. If he likes it. That's fine. But Allah. Allah pains you're listening. I hope I've shaved by now or at rest.
Brad 35:54
I respect your chest Sir. Sir. No. Your chest sir pioneer. And I shall wear my chest proudly. Proudly for you,
Shawn 36:04
Chris. What's your overall rating? Well, you said you hated
Brad 36:09
the last dragon is way more fun.
Shawn 36:12
We did my job genres.
Brad 36:15
I'm just saying what made me feel good. Okay, this is not a feel good movie. All right, zero to five. I don't think I feel good. I don't think a movie like this can like get a good rating for me. Okay, when you give it one or to stop watching from the beginning until win Mad Dog. Okay, hold on. Let me break. Let me do to break down. Okay. So your row. Yeah, so from the beginning until Mad Dog basil. Okay with the cane is up. Five out of five. Perfect, perfect movie. Okay, had me had me rolling edge of my seat. And I was like, what's gonna happen next? Who is it gonna be with his cane next? And then the rest of them would be like, whatever.
Shawn 37:03
So overall, you give it a one out of a no
Brad 37:05
rock Derby like a two?
Shawn 37:07
Okay. Okay, do you know my rating?
Brad 37:11
For I don't know. Is a five was your favorite movie. So? Yes, a five. Okay. Yes, I get that. Yes, sir.
Shawn 37:20
Yes, because I can just blacked it out. is gross. But I can back it up. Because the chest hair wasn't essential to the movie. So I think you had the family element. There was love. There was like, um, I don't know, it was just it was so good. Like you you had it wasn't just Jason and lyric. Like they both had their sibling relationships. They had to deal with the family trauma. They're trying to create a better life for themselves. Like who doesn't love a story where you know, they're trying to overcome their situation.
Brad 37:53
This guy?
Shawn 37:54
Clearly Yeah. It was great. It's five out of five. You got some history in there with the Juneteenth you got you got this whole grand Juneteenth and don't bring you got you got this whole aspect of mental health for vets and how
Brad 38:13
you said and I said, what else?
Shawn 38:15
Oh, yeah. And not even just vets. But you know, like mental health is trauma, especially in the black family. So they killed my dog when they were younger. But all these years later, they're both still dealing with, you know, the fallout from that death. Josh ends up turning into an alcoholic just like Sam, he doesn't know how to cope with life. He doesn't know how to talk to people. He is in and out of jail. You know, from time, it seems like that he's a child until this point before he kills himself. And he was on his way back in until he killed himself.
Brad 38:51
Yeah. So bad movie. Such a hater.
Shawn 38:54
Would you recommend people watch it? Yeah. Why?
Brad 38:58
If there's ever a time where you're in, like, too much of a good mood. You need to equal things out. You're like, Hey, I'm way too happy today. Something's going wrong. This popped this movie in. It will set you right. I cannot believe you just said that. Like, if you like on a 12 You're like, dang, I need to get back to like a 10 Because I'm like to hype.
Shawn 39:24
If y'all can see my face right now. This man
Brad 39:29
No, I'm too good right now. I need to humble myself, Papa.
Shawn 39:35
So I think he's a little biased, right? Why? Because the movie started and when they show Jada Hey said, this is lyric. He doesn't like Jada. Ya, so I think he he just as soon as he noticed that lyric was Jada Pinkett because she wasn't Smith yet. I don't think so as soon as he noticed that was Jada Pinkett he was like, Alright, I'm done. Nothing else about this movie. It's gonna be good.
Brad 39:58
Did you know it's actually pronounced Get
Shawn 40:01
who said it's called as pink it Where'd you hear that she's never even say Jada Pinkett.
Brad 40:12
But maybe it's like Wyclef like he came out like a year ago. Like
Shawn 40:17
actually it's Wyclef Joan. Oh, yeah, Jean.
Brad 40:20
I just people started calling me John and I just let it happen.
Shawn 40:23
No. She from Baltimore. They got pink gets in Baltimore. What pink gets you know?
Brad 40:29
We'll find a pink get right. Let us know if anyone knows the pink cat out there. You will have our gratitude if you find them.
Shawn 40:39
Yeah. And tell them to watch Jason's lyric. Let us know if they're related to Jada. Oh, tell us their opinion.
Brad 40:45
I forgot. Two things. Title. Terrible.
Shawn 40:49
Okay. Now I can understand that.
Brad 40:53
She is not an object. Yes. He let her on her. No matter how disgusting. She is again. And how much I don't want to see her. Written by man ran by man. You can't owe her? Nope. Will Smith know that? See from the streets, anyway. Yeah. I thought it was like a metaphor, but it's like literal.
Shawn 41:16
Yes. What's his name is Jason Her name is lyric mad, corny.
Brad 41:19
And then what was up with that? homeless man speaking spoken word spoken word, randomly.
Shawn 41:27
Um, so like, lyric was kind of into poetry and all that too. So I think it was just like a theme.
Brad 41:35
They did and some other movie some of the black movie. Because
Shawn 41:38
remember, she was like, oh, meet me. The next time the sun leaves footprints across the sky.
Brad 41:44
Is that totally poetry? Yeah,
Shawn 41:46
it's poetic.
Brad 41:47
I just thought you dumb? Yeah, I didn't. I didn't know what was wrong with
Shawn 41:50
that. Well, clearly, he was dumb because he didn't know what that meant. What time it meant.
Brad 41:54
I've never heard anyone say like that. Jason didn't either.
Shawn 41:57
All right. Anything else you might say to people
Brad 41:59
just want to try. You will probably regret it. You can. You can watch it. You let us know what you think. Right? You can let us know what you think. You can tell me why I'm wrong and why this is a good movie. And then next show will read it. If you tell us and I'll tell you why. Still a bad movie.
Shawn 42:21
I hope you're on my side because I love this movie. So bad. In the meantime, thank you for listening. Catch us on Instagram. Unseen culture classics. Email us at unscenecc@gmail.com. We went to reviews tell your friends and we'll see you the next time the sun leaves footprints across the sky.