Episode 003 Coming to America - 23andMe and Akeem
Unscene Culture ClassicsApril 28, 2022x
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Episode 003 Coming to America - 23andMe and Akeem

In this episode, we watch the 1988 romantic comedy, Coming to America.

Can you believe Shawn's never seen this Eddie Murphy classic? Join us and find out how she feels about this "unscene" culture classic

We discuss

  • The best and worst parts of the movie
  • Arsenio's striking resemblance to Grace Jones
  • 80's make-up quality
  • And more

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    Shawn  00:07

    What's up? What's up, everyone? Welcome to another episode of unseen culture classes. We are episode three. If you've been rocking with us since the intro, thank you. You'll tell your friends about us keep coming back. Today we're going to talk about coming to America. I already know what you're thinking. Well, they don't pull my black car. Yeah, I have never seen coming to America. 

     

    Brad  00:32

    Why not?

     

    Shawn  00:34

    It just wasn't ever on my radar. I don't know. I've never had a reason to watch it all, man. Alright, so what's coming to America about let's,

     

    Brad  00:42

    let's see what IMDb says it's about then we'll get into what you think would happen. And extremely pampered African Prince travels to Queens, New York and goes undercover to find a wife that he can respect for her intelligence and strong will. Okay, so, um, I wasn't completely oblivious to the movie, so I knew a little bit of it. Okay.

     

    Shawn  01:05

    I think that that synopsis is pretty self explanatory. Yeah. Um, but I don't think he's gonna be able to have that he's a prince. So I feel like somebody's gonna be able to discover

     

    Brad  01:17

    something. That's a pretty solid guess. I feel like when everyone has a secret in a movie, it always comes out.

     

    Shawn  01:21

    Yeah. Like, I don't know, how it's gonna come out or like, who's you know, going to let it slip. But I feel like it's gonna happen pretty early on.

     

    Brad  01:31

    Okay. And to be clear, I've seen it. I just don't really remember that. Well, it's been a while.

     

    Shawn  01:37

    So you think you've probably only seen it like once, maybe twice?

     

    Brad  01:40

    I know. I've seen probably the whole way through once. And it maybe scenes here and there.

     

    Shawn  01:48

    Okay. All right. So it should be interesting. Yeah. You want to just go through? Yeah, let's talk about it top to bottom. So when it first opens, I don't know what the song is. It's supposed to be some African inspired song. Right. But it sounds just like in the jungle from The Lion King. Maybe on purpose. Okay, so I was going to ask that question. Because James Earl Jones is in both movies, right? So did he have a say? Or they're like, Oh, it's a movie that's based in Africa and Lion King? I don't know what when Lion King came out, but not from the 90s. So then that would mean, coming to America came out before the Lion King.

     

    Brad  02:37

    The Lion King came out in 94.

     

    Shawn  02:42

    Okay, so this movie coming to America came out in 1988. Right. So then the Lion King took whatever the song is. So that means this song existed already. So that lion king revamp it, and make it to in the jungle.

     

    Brad  02:58

    Oh, no, I had to revisit that. I'll look up. See if I could find something while you're going through everything? I don't know.

     

    Shawn  03:07

    Because all I could think of listening to that was in the jungle. Okay, the mighty jungle. The lion sleeps tonight. Are we but what are we? Okay? Um, so the next thing, which is one of my favorite parts of the movie, there were musicians, right? Getting into formation. You can't really tell what they're about to do. But then they start playing music. And you see the prince in bed and like, this is how they're waking him up. Well, I was like, What is going on here? Is this he wakes up every day. They just have these musicians playing. He's hardly pampered clearly, but then they have the women with the rose petals, the rose throwers, and they say happy birthday to him. And I was like, Oh, this is wonderful. Like, you know, I'm a big fan of birthdays. And so I think it's great. Are you will you know this? I think everyone that knows me know, this. Sounds like Oh, everyone should wake up like this to a royal birthday greeting. It was wonderful. He wakes up Prince Joachim wakes up, he starts his routine. And someone says Happy 21st birthday, or he says it feels good to be 21. And I immediately said, no. What an exclamation mark. There is no way. Because he looks way older than 21 I don't know any 21 year olds that look like that.

     

    Brad  04:27

    Look 21 to me.

     

    Shawn  04:29

    21 you didn't look

     

    Brad  04:30

    like that. Have you seen people? Like on the street? Yeah, I've

     

    Shawn  04:34

    seen people in the streets. I've

     

    Brad  04:36

    seen 90 rows to look older than Eddie Murphy. No movie.

     

    Shawn  04:40

    I have never. But there are some people that look. Oh, but he looked too old to be playing a 21 year old prince. Like they could have at least said he was 25

     

    Brad  04:50

    All right. That's it. That's all I gotta say. I'm just messing with you. Where are you gonna go next

     

    Shawn  04:58

    to his breakfast with his parents. All right,

     

    Brad  05:00

    so can we talk about how in the BAP scene you didn't know that song? Oh sample you can tell the people how do you not know the song? Okay, so I thought it was pretty famous the song with our Kelly a Snoop Dogg. That's that ish. It could be famous. And he's sampled the song The melody from him getting in his little bath and enroll peanuts being clean.

     

    Shawn  05:27

    It could be a famous song so never heard. You play the sample. flabbergasted. Yeah, I don't know why. A whole song was it was an art Kelly song or a Snoop Dogg song.

     

    Brad  05:39

    I think it was snoops and archeologists and hook.

     

    Shawn  05:42

    Yeah. Never heard of it until today. It's wild

     

    Brad  05:44

    man. It was on a radio all the time.

     

    Shawn  05:48

    That our Kelly was problematic. The song being good. No, our Kelly being discussed right now. Oh, right. Right. Right. Because we're looking at it, you know, from the lens of, you know, when

     

    Brad  06:02

    Yeah, I'll just I'll just bring that up. Because I couldn't believe you didn't know the sample. But yeah, he had nothing to do with the movie.

     

    Shawn  06:08

    I know. I know. We're talking about our Kelly. So right. I just want to say this is before the world knew he was problematic. The world, not the industry.

     

    Brad  06:17

    Okay. Okay.

     

    Shawn  06:20

    Okay, so can I get into his breakfast thing? Yeah, we go to buy breakfast. All right. So they have this long table, right. And it probably looks like there's I don't know, like 30 or 40 chairs on each side, his parents at one or at one end. He's at the other end of the table. And they have to use a intercom to talk. Like, that's so wild to me.

     

    Brad  06:45

    You royal, you got to have a big table,

     

    Shawn  06:47

    but it's the three of them. They could have easily set near each other. And his parents seemed very surprised when he started approaching them. Like, why are you coming close to us? You shouldn't be here.

     

    Brad  06:58

    Everyone needs their own space. Sean

     

    Shawn  07:01

    Ford, and Carolyn.

     

    Brad  07:02

    And when you Arroyo you need extra space for the chairlift space? I think it was highly appropriate.

     

    Shawn  07:09

    I've never seen any royal movie and I can't think of any right now. Where there's that much space between the head table and the end table. The head of the table and the end of the table.

     

    Brad  07:20

    No, no, man. It's been pretty accurate to me.

     

    Shawn  07:23

    When I have you been at a royal table with that much space, I

     

    Brad  07:28

    wish. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, it was a very good visual gag.

     

    Shawn  07:35

    Yeah. So then when he finally sits near his parents, and they're having a discussion about, you know, his future and he has to have this wife that they've arranged for him. Yeah. I appreciate it. The fact that he was, you know, saying to his parents, he's 21 he doesn't want to be pampered anymore. Like he's never even taught his shoes. And just to go back a little bit, they had someone brush his teeth for him. Crazy. Like that is super pampered beyond pamper. I don't get it.

     

    Brad  08:07

    I brush your teeth for you know,

     

    Shawn  08:09

    I wouldn't want you to brush my teeth. I don't know. I

     

    Brad  08:11

    got good technique. No, I'll have you know, when I go to the dentist, they say I do a good job.

     

    Shawn  08:17

    Yeah, they say I do a good job when I go to. Alright, then we brush your teeth. No, you can brush your own out brush mine. But yeah, I appreciate it. Whoa. Oh, no, no, no, I don't think we're done. Why are we not done?

     

    Brad  08:33

    I think what this Movies Taught us is that love can be shown through brushing someone's teeth.

     

    Shawn  08:40

    No, this shows that money can buy someone to brush your teeth

     

    Brad  08:45

    and brush your teeth. You pay me

     

    Shawn  08:48

    moving on back to this conversation he's had he's having with his parents. So yeah, I appreciate that. He doesn't want to be pampered anymore. But he starts to talk about you know, wanting to be in love with this bride and knowing her and who she is. And his father says there's a fine line between love and nausea. Like that is so crazy. I don't think I don't think love gives you a nauseous feeling.

     

    Brad  09:15

    I mean, the wife had a really good visceral reaction. That's some good acting. Yeah. Cuz she's a woman. Like, that's the Treasury saying women act better than men.

     

    Shawn  09:25

    No, I mean, just the reaction, however, planned. Okay. I don't think any woman is going to react positively to hearing a man say there's a thin line between love and nausea. Right. Okay, that was a joke. I mean, I know that.

     

    Brad  09:41

    Okay. Good. All right, just making sure here.

     

    Shawn  09:46

    All right. You talk about your parts from the beginning before I move on.

     

    Brad  09:52

    I only have one thing I want to talk about on beginning. Okay. So, at the beginning of the movie, Arsenio Hall care Der. Send me. He comes to get prints. Hakeem is a keen hucking. Ah, keen is keen. Yeah, that's what's on the picture. All right, he comes to get a game. And he's like, we got to do our training, or whatever. So he starts stick fighting. And all of a sudden art central falls on the ground. Hey, looks just like once was the name?

     

    Shawn  10:23

    Grace Jo Grace Jones? Yes. Yeah, he's our senior looks like Grace Jones.

     

    Brad  10:28

    I'm like, who's the inspiration for who?

     

    Shawn  10:31

    Hey, are you trying to tell me? Do you think Grace Jones saw Arsenio Hall? I said, I want that look.

     

    Brad  10:36

    No, I'm saying what if our syneos saw grace? I said, I want that look for the movie. Yeah.

     

    Shawn  10:41

    I mean, you say who's the inspiration for who? So I just want to clarify.

     

    Brad  10:45

    I don't know. Which is true. That's, that's why I'm asking. I'm putting it out there. Which I think they like twins.

     

    Shawn  10:52

    Anybody who's seen coming to America, I'm sure it's everybody except for me. Do you think Arsenio Hall in this fight? Workout scene looks like

     

    Brad  11:02

    Grace Jones. He has a lot of makeup on to and there's like eyeliner going on throughout the whole movie. He has a lot of makeup, like a lot. And it was you can see like cake. Yes, like, well, his skin. But I

     

    Shawn  11:12

    also think like, makeup in 1988 was just bad, like dental didn't have good technique.

     

    Brad  11:18

    It didn't seem like that for anyone else.

     

    Shawn  11:21

    I mean, maybe everyone else didn't really have, you know, as much. Maybe Arsenio just needed to cover up some stuff.

     

    Brad  11:28

    This is real last name Jones. Are you really trying to say that related is conspiracy theory?

     

    Shawn  11:34

    No, I think you can do a quick search and see that they are not related.

     

    Brad  11:38

    I'm gonna Google and see if anyone else has the same like, disposition. If they look alike, someone else has to think the same thing.

     

    Shawn  11:47

    I mean, if if they do, I'm sure it's on the internet. Especially since you know, the second one came out. I'm sure there's more discussion about the original was the anosike one. I don't know. I haven't seen anywhere. But I assumed the whole cast is back. I thought that was the whole thing that I had everyone excited.

     

    Brad  12:05

    Who's Danny Welbeck? No clue. Okay, someone on Twitter says Arsenio Hall. Plus Grace Jones equals Danny Welbeck.

     

    Shawn  12:14

    Well, now we need to look up Danny Welbeck. Stand by people. Have any of you ever heard of Danny Welbeck? Do you agree that Arsenio Hall and greystones apparently is Daniel Welbeck? Sorry, apparently some random soccer player from England?

     

    Brad  12:29

    Well, let's

     

    Shawn  12:30

    see his picture. Um, I can kind of see that, too. Yeah, look him up so you can get the visual too. So then, when they get to this ceremony, I assume it's the same day of a Kim's birthday. So maybe in zamanda, when you're 21, you have to have your bride presented to you. So they do this African dance, which is amazing. One of my favorite parts. And then they introduced the wife. And I can't remember the character's name, but it's Vanessa Bell Calloway is the actress. So I told you, I have never seen this movie. But I thought that Vanessa Bell Calloway his character was the woman like the one that prints I came actually want it to be with and ended up with. I definitely was wrong. Definitely. And I was kind of sad about that. Because I really liked Vanessa Bell Calloway. And I think her acting was very good. Like, the bark like a dog and making noise that in the ring cutting wood and you hop on one leg, all that stuff. She's, she's very into it. If a man that I'm, you know, is supposed to marry tells me to do this stuff. There's no way.

     

    Brad  13:52

    very iconic scene. Are you looking at me? I won't bark like a dog either.

     

    Shawn  13:57

    Good to know. All right. Glad to do that. Right. Okay, so he comes to us. Yep. I don't really have anything to say about that. It you know, it is what it is. I think yes,

     

    Brad  14:12

    he comes drippy with a bunch of luggage. Yeah.

     

    Shawn  14:15

    But I think again, he makes a point to see me that he wants to find a woman with substance and not just a woman, you know, who has looks and they kind of you know, get settled. They find their place. There's this barber shop in the neighborhood. And this is a part that I did not like the makeup job on all of these characters to which are Eddie Murphy. Horrible.

     

    Brad  14:45

    Really? Yes. Oh, it's pretty good. It might have been pretty good for the standard for that year.

     

    Shawn  14:51

    I guess but watching it in 2022. It was not good. I felt like they had on like Party City Mass. Like they just put some load latex or something to like connect the mass to their necks. No, I thought it was very bad.

     

    Brad  15:09

    Let me say how much of the movie costs? We did not. It costs a lot of money. Yeah, I think it was trash in this, this makeup in here. So we gotta say how much

     

    Shawn  15:21

    it was just the men in the barbershop though I thought the rest of the movie that tie your the hair all that was pretty good.

     

    Brad  15:28

    So we said the budget was like 36 mil, right? So if I go to a little like inflation calculator, I'll just put in 36 mil. And I'll just see what comes out. Because the slander is crazy,

     

    15:42

    but it's not really slander. Okay.

     

    Brad  15:46

    The year was 1913. I was like, that's not what I got last time. Well, you're the

     

    Shawn  15:50

    1930s a great year. 1988.

     

    Brad  15:53

    Right. So 36 mil. And 88 is equivalent to like 86 mil. today.

     

    Shawn  16:03

    May we definitely talked about the movie looking expensive, though.

     

    Brad  16:07

    Yeah, I think they blew their budget on the elephants and zebras.

     

    Shawn  16:11

    By the way, there's a lot of people I've circled back to that for a quick minute. Okay. In the beginning, when he's having this breakfast with his parents, there's, you know, just elephants walking past the window making their noise. Yeah. Very interesting. Loved it. Then they have the ceremony where the bride is introduced. There's like 10 Elephants just lined up outside, just being normal with all these people walking around. And then zebra just runs across a caiman his father when they're having their little stroll. Zebra.

     

    Brad  16:44

    Yeah, I think it's, I think that's supposed to be a joke. Like it just so extravagant.

     

    Shawn  16:49

    I'm gonna, I'm gonna, okay, so I don't have anything until we get to black Awareness Week. Okay, so black Awareness Week, this event? You're probably gonna be real surprised by what I'm gonna say.

     

    Brad  17:04

    Oh, wow. What are you gonna say? It's gonna be a bad take?

     

    Shawn  17:07

    No, I just think it's interesting. Okay. The band sexual chocolate. Yeah, they sing. I believe that children are the future, right? And I have this very vivid memory of my principals singing this over the intercom and middle school. But a singer Well, no, she didn't. She did not think oh, well, they should do

     

    Brad  17:28

    better than the group in the movie. Good movie, they do pretty badly.

     

    Shawn  17:32

    No, they both were bad. Okay, all right. I put this on my little list to discuss here. Because apparently, I'm the only person that remembers her singing this. Like, I've asked my best friend multiple times who also went to middle school with me. Do you remember this happening? And she has no

     

    Brad  17:50

    memory. So you imagine that?

     

    Shawn  17:52

    It seems that way. But it's very vivid in my head of this woman's thing. And I believe that children are the future over the intercom. And it's stuck. So when the band started singing this, I had a flashback to middle school and hearing this voice singing this song. And I didn't like it.

     

    Brad  18:11

    Yeah, well, I can't really help. Because I wasn't there. Ya know? So you could be making it up.

     

    Shawn  18:18

    Or I could be telling the truth. And maybe my friend just wasn't there that

     

    Brad  18:22

    the find more people from your middle school? And find out if this is correct or not? I mean, there are more people I could ask but no, thanks. slotting them DMS for a good cause.

     

    Shawn  18:33

    No, I think I'm good. All right, I just have this memory to myself. Okay. And now to all of our listeners.

     

    Brad  18:39

    Yeah, well, maybe one of your listeners will be from your middle school. And they'll be like, Oh, I remember that. And they'll email us or a slot in our DMS.

     

    Shawn  18:47

    If you went to middle school with me, I'm not gonna say the name. But if you did, you know me. You know what school? Let me know if you remember our principals thing and I believe the children of the future. Yes, intercom, please slot in her DMs. Yeah. So other than that, like, I just have one overall note. Okay. And then I have a point at the end. All right. Okay, let's go. Over all I do not like these derogatory stereotypes and remarks about Africa. Like there was one Georgia hearing, I think in 1988, you know, of course, people went with it. It was funny, but in 2022 No. Are you

     

    Brad  19:31

    mad? Because you find out you're African. From your 23andme

     

    Shawn  19:36

    Oh, my gosh, so No, obviously I knew I was

     

    Brad  19:40

    you find out what the what the blood

     

    Shawn  19:42

    was what the percentage was? Yeah, I'm not from the moon. So no.

     

    Brad  19:46

    Yeah, so that's why that's why you felt real hurt. listens, gaslighting you. You got triggered.

     

    Shawn  19:54

    Maybe I was triggered. Maybe I was, I hope in this new version that came out They don't have any of that in there.

     

    Brad  20:01

    Yeah, after she found out what she was you can tell her nothing.

     

    Shawn  20:06

    If you're interested, and my results, let me know. I'll share. But yeah, we might be cousins.

     

    Brad  20:13

    You definitely don't see a lot of African jokes and movies anymore.

     

    Shawn  20:16

    Yeah, it's unacceptable.

     

    Brad  20:19

    I think the most recent movie I can think of as African jokes are the barbershop.

     

    Shawn  20:26

    I don't even remember any of the joking barbershop. Honestly,

     

    Brad  20:28

    the dude I like to Eve little chubby dude from Africa, and I think they were making fun of him for that. Yeah, like his accent. I can't really think of the I guess anything, Michael Blackson. But, you know, I haven't seen any of those movies.

     

    Shawn  20:43

    And movie I've seen so they're on the list, whatever, in the Friday franchise.

     

    Brad  20:47

    Right? So people anything with Michael Blackson? That you consider a classic? Send it over? Because I haven't seen it. How she got.

     

    Shawn  20:56

    So you. Do you have anything between black Awareness Week and the end of the movie?

     

    Brad  21:01

    Not that I want to point out. Oh, between now I mean, then and then. Yeah. Like I don't have any other notes. And I really like Samuel Jackson popping up and trying to rob the muggles. Okay, that was nice.

     

    Shawn  21:12

    So that was a it was a good thing. But then when the owner is like, Oh, he's robbed us five other times. Like, why? Why does this keep happening? How are you robbing the same store five times. And then they know that you robbed it because you don't even have the mask or anything covering your face. So like, why are they just calling the police?

     

    Brad  21:30

    I mean, I guess I do call the police. But what can police do afterwards?

     

    Shawn  21:34

    Find him arrest him.

     

    Brad  21:37

    I mean, he's hiding. I don't know.

     

    Shawn  21:39

    I don't think he's hiding that much. He has this huge shotgun. And he didn't even he didn't even walk in and like just say anything. Just say like, go to register and say give me the money. He walked in and immediately just fired. It's crazy. I guess after doing it five other times, you know how to get the money as fast as possible.

     

    Brad  21:57

    Yes. On site at that point. There's like a routine. They knew what was gonna happen. Louie Anderson got them when you're ready.

     

    Shawn  22:03

    Oh, and I did appreciate seeing Louie Anderson. Alright. And Ben. The cashier. Well, actually, he had a lot of jobs. He was the cashier. He washed lettuce. Yeah, he was trying to be an assistant manager in two years. Shout out to him. Yeah. In terms

     

    Brad  22:19

    of anything I want to point out though. I like all the solo stuff. Very funny.

     

    Shawn  22:24

    So is it a real product? Because I thought it was so glow was like a real thing? Pretty sure it's not? I mean, yeah. So maybe I know about it because people always burger from the movie. Yeah. Well, that's what I was saying. And looking boy, they say so glow looking boy, right, because it's, uh, yeah, I guess it's a reference to the movie. So maybe that's why I thought it was real.

     

    Brad  22:46

    I think now that you've seen the movie, they can get more the references. So goal, real product. The fictional hair product from the 1980 movie coming to America. Sounds

     

    Shawn  22:58

    Gotcha. Okay, so not real. No, but people really don't use stuff to wear Jheri curls like that. Yeah, I think Jheri curls are like the worst hairstyle ever.

     

    Brad  23:06

    So how much hair do you need? To Jheri curl like you need to afro? I assume, right?

     

    Shawn  23:12

    I don't know. Never have one. Would you try to save you can get a Jheri curl. No, no, not gonna happen, sir. Did you see how much grease or spray whatever was left on their couch?

     

    Brad  23:26

    I think that was an exaggeration or being hyperbolic. No,

     

    Shawn  23:30

    I don't think so. I mean, yes. But even like, in today's world, normal hairspray or whatever, if you spray your hair, and then like, you lay on something. Um, if you freshly spray, generally, you're gonna see like some oil print or something. Depending on what like the material that you're laying on. But this was like, dripping on this couch, like the sprayed while they were sitting there or something which they probably did.

     

    Brad  23:57

    Okay, so I'm trying to have my clothes drippy, and my hair dripping. What's wrong with that? Not

     

    Shawn  24:02

    in 2020 Double drip. Not in this year. Drip, drip, drip. Now, somebody out there, what a time machine. Go back to the 80s and then you can wear Jheri curl. You can have drippy clothes and up here

     

    Brad  24:14

    manually try and stop my Sway.

     

    Shawn  24:17

    Sway you I'm talking about this way. How would you think of this way to home

     

    Brad  24:21

    clothing? You know, I thought I thought was good. I liked the style. I liked his little sweater he was wearing.

     

    Shawn  24:27

    Did you like his? His initial New York style when they came out looking like tourists after all their luggage was

     

    Brad  24:32

    stolen? Ironically. Yeah. I feel like it's something like a hipster. Where? a hipster? Yeah. In New York hipster. Not necessarily New York. But yeah, like I can read to someone from like, like college wearing that.

     

    Shawn  24:45

    Oh, really? Yeah. I don't think I know anybody who would wear that tie. Oh, no,

     

    Brad  24:49

    we didn't go to the same school.

     

    Shawn  24:50

    We did not. Alright, so we're gonna have to do in the bride. Okay, I'm going straight to the wedding. So,

     

    Brad  24:58

    okay, so wait, hold on. Sorry. So you don't have any thoughts. No. How, then when the train none of that? Surprising. Okay.

     

    Shawn  25:07

    Wait, what do you think I was

     

    Brad  25:08

    like last time we talked about Jason's lyric, you had all this stuff to say about like, their love story and things like that and how it how it ended?

     

    Shawn  25:18

    Well, this I'm gonna talk about how it ended, I think. I mean, it was a good love story, but no, I didn't care about the subway. Like, I think she was done for running in the rain to get into subway to get away from him. Like, whatever. Okay,

     

    Brad  25:30

    I know. It's a love story.

     

    Shawn  25:32

    It is a love story. Okay, I get it. And it's been a love story since the beginning. I think her reaction to finding out that he was a prince was just crazy. Like, I don't know, it's not like, like, maybe if the father had told her Oh, he has a wife, whatever. Okay, fine. I understand that part. Yeah, but she got mad when she found out he was a prince. Like, why are you getting mad about that? You didn't tell me. Okay, you know, now,

     

    Brad  25:59

    you know if I like were anyone lied to you about one thing? You'd be real upset?

     

    Shawn  26:04

    No, see, I think it depends on what it is.

     

    Brad  26:07

    Alright, so if I lie to you by having money, and I got money, he'd be happy. What if I loved you but about having money that I didn't have it? Yeah, like what? I think I think the same libre.

     

    Shawn  26:19

    No. So I think finances is just one thing you shouldn't lie about anyway. Okay. But like, he I don't know. I feel like he offered to pay for stuff. And whatever. She wouldn't let him because she's like, I know you're poor. So like, no, but he could have you know, shown her some kind of way that he had a little bit of money. Okay,

     

    Brad  26:37

    so can I talk about the weather now? Yeah, I'll stop interrupting you.

     

    Shawn  26:40

    They show the bride right at the back of this ballroom. Yeah. You can clearly see. Can you see this king tone is not Vanessa Bell Calloway what it looked like like so they made it seem like he left New York. And Lisa wanted nothing to do with him and that he was going back home and he was going to marry this bride that his parents picked up great. Because she was groomed from birth to please Him and to marry him and to be a queen. All right. So I came has his back to her. Right. So that's understandable. He doesn't know who the bride is. Right? Um, so then he lifts the veil. And he's so shocked that it's Lisa. But you can clearly see her exposed arms, that it is not the original bride, so I don't know why. He was like, so surprised about who it was. And I don't know if we as the viewers were supposed to be like, Oh, it Lisa. It's not the other girl. But now. You can see that. You can see it from the back of the room. Well, hey, most comes out. Like everyone's supposed to know. Yeah, no. Okay. So I think it was supposed to be a surprise. Yeah, get it for him. Okay, but I'm seeing for us. Yeah, for us. It's not a surprise. No. I also feel like before he raised the veil, you could see her arms. So he shouldn't have been surprised that it was Lisa and not the other girl. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, like her face, whatever. But you can see her skin tone. You showed

     

    Brad  28:10

    us all those yellow arms and knew something was up. Yeah. So what you're saying?

     

    Shawn  28:14

    Yeah. But again, it's a love story. I love love story. So I was happy that he was able to choose the person he wanted. And not the person that his family chose for him. But true

     

    Brad  28:24

    love prevails.

     

    Shawn  28:25

    Yeah, true love.

     

    Brad  28:30

    I don't know what that was like the angel singer or something?

     

    Shawn  28:33

    Oh, so I can definitely see why. You know, everyone was happy for a second one. So I guess we need to watch that at some point.

     

    Brad  28:41

    Or not. I mean, you're probably watching.

     

    Shawn  28:45

    I feel like there was so much build up to this relationship and ends with them getting married. But then like what happens? I want to know, just

     

    Brad  28:53

    to be clear, you haven't seen part two right now, and I haven't either.

     

    Shawn  28:58

    Right. I mean, I feel like there's no point in watching Part Two, because I've never seen part one.

     

    Brad  29:02

    Yeah, we probably won't do a follow up right away. We'll probably let it breathe.

     

    Shawn  29:05

    Yeah, no, I'm not saying right away, just yes on point. But I want to know, because I have some questions. What did they tell? Vanessa Bell Calloway has character? Like, they just say, Oh, he fell in love with somebody else. We don't need you anymore. So now when she's supposed to do she was groomed her whole life to be with him. Now she's at least 2021. And she has to figure out who she is. Because she doesn't know what she likes to eat. She doesn't know what she likes to listen to. She doesn't have any hobbies.

     

    Brad  29:38

    And the thing about her, see, God think about her. That's the problem with this world man. Just grooming people and throw them away.

     

    Shawn  29:46

    Right? Like she's not a person. I mean, I guess they didn't view her as a real person. They just wanted her to do whatever he said. Yeah. I would like to know what happened to her.

     

    Brad  29:56

    What do you think should happen? He grew up with some I

     

    Shawn  30:00

    Maybe Maybe she gets hooked up with see me. He doesn't seem to mind a person who's attractive but no substance.

     

    Brad  30:08

    So he seemed to be dying. This is like lighter skinned woman at the end of the movie. They were like standing next to each other while everyone's waving. I don't know if you keep that peep that. Yeah. And it wasn't it wasn't dog girl. It was someone else.

     

    Shawn  30:22

    So I want to it'd be nice to see what happens with him as well.

     

    Brad  30:26

    Yeah, he didn't know what the SR, which seemed like it would have made sense. But he didn't. He also didn't stay in New York. So yeah,

     

    Shawn  30:33

    but this is their didn't really like him. She was just like, oh, I he told me he's a print. So I just want him because he has all this stuff.

     

    Brad  30:40

    All right. She theoretically ended up with Darrell.

     

    Shawn  30:43

    Yes, that's how they left it off. Yeah. So that'll be interesting to see to the Darrow ball for her. If this is however, many years later, nobody's rocking Jheri curls. So he's probably not even rich anymore. You think he has waves? He could have waves. But I bet you he doesn't have as much money.

     

    Brad  30:59

    Oh, if he bought me he'll got wave. So he probably just has like, seeds or fade or whatever.

     

    Shawn  31:05

    I don't know, back guarantee he's not rich anymore. So maybe what would you

     

    Brad  31:09

    do probably went to like a new hair product, though. You they probably want to premiere weeks. All the girls that were in those? Well with the baby hairs and everything

     

    Shawn  31:19

    that they were

     

    Brad  31:19

    doing something we were weaves. But they were they were working. You're right. You're right. They could have pivoted the wigs. So yeah, we're theorize and all this stuff. And we'll probably watch the movie and Brian, none of this will be addressed. Like half those people want to be in the movie, and it'll just be Eddie.

     

    Shawn  31:37

    Alright, so Okay, let's go there, though. I want everybody that's listening. If you have seen the second one coming to America, let us know if our little predictions right here right. So that we're not even going to read the synopsis. We're just going to put our thoughts out here now. And then whenever we get around to watching it, we'll have the people tell us if we're right or wrong. So yeah, so I'd like to know happened to see me. I'd like to know what happened to Vanessa Bell Calloway is character. I would like to know if McDonald's is still a thing. Or like he's like, Oh, maybe McDonald's can do whatever now.

     

    Brad  32:15

    You buy it. He probably rip off a different restaurant. You probably rip off Chick fil A. That's what I would do in my brain. If I wrote the movie. I would have them rip off Chick fil A. and call it like, I don't know. I can't think of anything funny. Chick fil A? No like that. Like you grilled chicken Chick fil

     

    Shawn  32:33

    A chick. Really? Nah. Yeah. And then I wonder like, if other rules in the kingdom changed.

     

    Brad  32:43

    So you don't care about we're having a great shots.

     

    Shawn  32:46

    I know not greystones she can stay wherever she is.

     

    Brad  32:50

    Oh, our Cindy. Oh, sorry. Okay, okay. Yeah, sorry. I

     

    Shawn  32:54

    like to know what happened to him. All right. But yeah, I want to know if they changed any other rules in the kingdom. So like, they changed the whole thing about the arranged marriage. But did they like I don't know what other rules they would have. Because that's pretty much the only one that was discussed. Yeah. Besides that, and stop throwing rose petals on a walk?

     

    Brad  33:14

    Yeah. Do you care about what happens to the girls that you should throw rose petals? Now they're kind of out of a job?

     

    Shawn  33:19

    No, I'm sure they like delegated them to do something else in the palace. Yeah, hopefully. And then I wonder like, did they have their own children? You know, is there another prince? Is he gonna Is this gonna be a thing now like offspring have to go to New York before they get married?

     

    Brad  33:35

    It's like African rum, Springer. Yeah, maybe. So have you never seen the trailer for a sequel? Nope. Okay. I just know I pretty sure he has a son. Okay, that's all I know. Yeah. Never seen trail. Nothing. Teyana Taylor's in a movie. That's pretty much all like and Wesley Snipes. That's pretty much all I got Dawn and Taylor Teyana Taylor.

     

    Shawn  33:58

    Donna Taylor me.

     

    Brad  33:59

    Let me enunciate a little bit more. On Taylor.

     

    Shawn  34:02

    Yeah, so She better not be the next bride.

     

    Brad  34:06

    I have no idea what she is. I think she was Wesley from the trailer. I saw.

     

    Shawn  34:11

    What? How does that even make sense? I don't know. Oh, goodness. Okay, so, yeah, we're gonna have to watch that at some point soon. So overall, do you like it?

     

    Brad  34:23

    Yeah, I've seen it before. It didn't really remember a lot. It was better than I thought it was gonna be. Um, like, I always think of it as being like a little overhyped, but it's pretty good. I feel like it dragged some some of the jokes. Oh, Tom, some of the times. There's one scene where he's coming back from eating dinner with her. singing singing. Yeah, that wouldn't wait too long. Yeah, the joke of like everyone on the street cursing at him telling him go to sleep, or stop singing basically. That one like two minutes too long. There was some more bits where I was just like Are we get the joke, dude. That's it. You can stop. Oh, I

     

    Shawn  35:03

    felt that way about the the Western Union telegram thing. Yeah. Oh, three 300,000 Not enough. No, try 400,000 No try 500,000 We get it. You think he's dumb? And like he's really asking this much money from somebody.

     

    Brad  35:18

    Yeah, I don't know if that's a style thing. Like we're back then. If you just said it, a lot of times, it made it funnier. But now, that's not really the style of comedy. You don't just like keep hammering it over and over again. You kind of just like, say like, maybe like three times? Yeah, like the rule three? Few more things. I think some of the parts of the movie didn't need to happen.

     

    Shawn  35:42

    I agree. I affect it. Something about that into my writing.

     

    Brad  35:46

    Like, what was it called? The weather singing about the children? What was that part called?

     

    Shawn  35:50

    I believe the children are future. Oh, the black Awareness Week? Yeah.

     

    Brad  35:53

    Like, I feel like that scene could have been way different. I feel like it went on for a long time. That that was the bit that I was thinking of, were to do with singing badly. He's saying for like, a long time. It seemed like it felt like he sang the whole song.

     

    Shawn  36:05

    He did it. And the audience like, oh, that boy can sing. Yeah.

     

    Brad  36:09

    And then like, they just kept doing like one clap, wave like platform. And they were like, clap like twice. And they like did it again. I'm like, this is the same joke stop. Yeah, that scene. I feel like didn't need to be there. They needed to establish the characters, which I could have. They could have done quicker, I think which characters, they established a Mo's and his daughter. And they established a boyfriend, all in that scene. Like they establish that the boyfriend is like a liar and a cheapskate and continue to donate to the children. Right? So they kind of establishes kind of a jerk. And establish that a team is a nice person because he gave money. And then a establish that the daughter is like, ambitious afford a community. So like that part was important, but I feel like they could have done it a different way. So yeah, those two things. I feel like, like the movie is two hours long. I feel like they need to be. I feel like they put in a lot of jokes that they thought would be funny. That might have been funnier back in back in the day, but didn't necessarily need to be in a movie. The movie could have been an hour and a half. I don't think anyone would argue against that. And if you do, you're wrong.

     

    Shawn  37:20

    Everyone's entitled to your opinion. So how would you rate it?

     

    Brad  37:23

    I give it four solid four. Okay,

     

    Shawn  37:25

    I gave it a four two. Yeah, I think for me, it would have been a five if all the scenes with the old men were cut

     

    Brad  37:34

    because of their makeup or because none of the jokes were funny.

     

    Shawn  37:37

    Both. Like I just think it was unnecessary. They could have just had a regular barber cut his his low ponytail off his fairy tale. And then the pastor like they could have just had a normal.

     

    Brad  37:48

    And he keeps showing he kept showing up to he showed up at the dinner too. Yeah. And was very good. In terms of being funny. No, not funny.

     

    Shawn  37:55

    Anyway, he was just very loud and extra. Yeah, yeah. So I think those removed hopefully they're not in the second movie, but

     

    Brad  38:03

    I feel like they have to be, but I feel like technically they should be debt.

     

    Shawn  38:07

    Right? Because they were pretty oh, by the Jewish guy was old. Yeah, they both were old. I mean, all the all of them. They're old. Right? Yeah, but I gave it a 14. So for those who have seen it, shut out. Yeah. I thought it was a pretty solid movie. Like I said before, I can see why people are excited about the sequel.

     

    Brad  38:26

    Yeah, she's seen it now. So you don't want to make fun of her. No, please let me keep my black card. You're gonna let her go into the cookouts and stuff like that. I was always coming to the cookout. Were they like happy that you were there, though? They did let you go. There was a snicker and they're like, is growing and seeing coming to America. Give her her the ugly chicken wing this.

     

    Shawn  38:50

    This is supposed to be a judgment free zone.

     

    Brad  38:52

    I'm not judging they were judging you. Yeah,

     

    Shawn  38:54

    I don't think so. Not many people they come up at all right. So let us know your thoughts. Yeah. Did you like come into America? Tell us if we're right. On our predictions for the sequel. If you've seen it. I assume everyone's seen that too. We just haven't. Anything else we'll say to the people

     

    Brad  39:11

    know, y'all know the drill. If y'all think of any movies, we should cover. Email us or shoot us a DM on Instagram. Let us know what you're thinking. If we got it wrong on this new movie, which I doubt it, give it a pretty good score. I don't think anyone hates coming to America. But if you do, let us know.

     

    Shawn  39:32

    Would that be interesting? If somebody doesn't like it? I feel like the last dragon we were similar in our ratings. Jason's lyric we were not know. But this one we were we were the same. I think

     

    Brad  39:45

    the only thing we disagree on is like romantic stuff. In there that like you really liking it and me not really liking it so much. I love a good love story. If it's like just a good comedy, or a good action movie.

     

    Shawn  39:59

    Yeah, I'm sorry. With that,

     

    Brad  40:00

    they will probably give similar scores.

     

    Shawn  40:02

    Yeah. Because I don't like when movies try to cross genres. Yeah. And they have too much going on in one time. Like, if it's action, let it be action. If it's comedy, let it be comedy, if it's a love story, perfect, but I don't like all that mixing.

     

    Brad  40:17

    Yeah. And if anyone's listening if you know any good, like black horror movies,

     

    40:24

    let us know because we love our favorite genre, right? I was thinking about doing like some blaxploitation movies like Blacula. Okay, we can drive it so yeah, but yeah, as anyone knows, anything like that doesn't necessarily have to be that old. Any black horror movies because I'm drawing a blank, which probably means I haven't seen him so we can add to the list. Yeah, I guess. All right. Well, I guess we can get out of here. Email us, follow us on unscene culture classics. Tell your friends like us. Rate us, leave us a review. And that's your soul glow. Bye.

     

    41:04

    Bye